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Yeah as others have said, they probably cannot directly access their own weights as a self-reflection, but they can hack into the companies themselves and find it there

The word "simply" is doing a lot of work there

I have read somewhere that the cannibalism claims are overrated and kind of artificially inflated by the natives. (Most natives are actually Christian.) I have not looked closely into it though.

Unrelated. We have servers across the world; one in Mount Hagen. It has by far the biggest latency in the world; so I always use it as a "benchmark"; if it works in Mount Hagen, it works everywhere.


I visited Papua among some other places ~20 years ago. The steep elevation changes and extreme rain and infinitely deep mud means roads to many areas aren’t viable, will rapidly degrade if built, or there simply isn’t anything worth building a road to. You can see on Google Maps areas void of settlements. So I rode a twin engine Aztec into fuck knows where anymore, hiked barefoot through muddy rainforest, and met some Korowai. Treehouses, sago grubs and all.

From what I learned from groups that work with the Korowai, the cannibalism stuff was very real at one point, but wasn’t really something they liked to do. It was a matter of fear, superstition and ritual, rather than a method of substance.

My poorly remembered summary (take with a grain of salt): if someone got sick, it was because of a witch doctor or someone possessed by an evil spirit putting a curse on them. Only way to deal with the curse/evil spirit) was the find the caster (through torture of course) and kill and eat them. If you just kill them the evil spirit will keep being a problem, ritually eating them is what actually disperses the evil. Naturally, intertribal violence also gets mixed into that to blur lines.

At some point long prior to my arrival, the Indonesian government managed to get consistent enough access to the area to start governing the area to a degree. One of it’s first priorities was convincing them to stop the practice, which sometimes involved the ever classic “gather them around, shoot one of their pigs and let them consider it carefully” method of persuasion when some were persistent about continuing.

So while cannibalism wasn’t completely gone at that time, in practice it was then mostly a story to tell curious and generous visitors. The Korowai greatly prefer instant ramen packets in any case.

Beautiful and interesting area if you have a naturalist bent, though otherwise not a place to go if you have a normal idea of “fun”.

I’m not generally a tropical/heat guy, but Indonesia is a country that I sometimes think of returning to.


I randomly had a conversation with a guy at a bar in Taipei who was an administrator during the transition to self rule, and he said basically the same thing.

He said about many of the tribes modernized within a generation or two, and the ones that didn't still dropped the cannibalism stuff in the 50s.


Kuru: the science and the sorcery is a film worth looking into, it tracks the work of Australian medical researcher Michael Alpers from 1961 onwards.

~ https://www.screenaustralia.gov.au/screen-guide/kuru-the-sci...


I had to look that up. Wow. Does someone rent out rack space in Mount Hagen, or how did you come to have a server there?

It's not a publicly available server house. It's local partner. Cannot say more sorry

I’ve just asked a friend of mine who lives in PNG and yeah, this definitely happened. Nowadays it doesn’t happen anymore except potentially in some insanely remote areas.

Supposedly the Japanese during WW2 also resorted to cannibalism.


> Supposedly the Japanese during WW2 also resorted to cannibalism.

Germans and Russians did too. Most humans with a survival instinct will turn to cannibalism if it their only means to survive. This is completely unrelated to cannibalism as a cultural practice.


Apparently cannibalism after sea disasters was considered acceptable, as long as there was a fair lottery!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannibalism_at_sea


President Bush (snr) was nearly eaten by Japanese soldiers:

https://www.reddit.com/r/HistoryMemes/comments/qr1zth/in_sep...

(before he was president!)


Servers for mining companies?

Just curious if the hospital still exists there. Do you know?


I used to have a book about Papua and some westerner who had visited, that had a photo in it of a human head being cooked on a flat metal dish over a fire.

To prove the intent, the instructions- made by human - would need to be "hack this server". Or even "hack anything you can". I don't think this happened.

NAL. For fraud and abuse you need to have intent. There was very likely no intent on the side of OpenAI. They could sue for negligence I guess? I don't know how that works with AI agents

Negligence works fine.

One thing that works for that angle is that they didn't notify any of the parties involved afterwards. And there are reports that they are forbidden to talk about it. That seems a bit bad to me?

But they can also say that the tech is so new that there is no known guardrails yet

We live in exciting times


This is how law develops, no?

Ah OK, I wondered where is the "catch".

You cannot keep all 3 of "no gatekeeping" - "anyone can message anyone" - "low spam".


Revolut is built on move-fast-break-things. They make things cheaply, quickly, and it (mostly) works.

But yeah there is always a downside when moving fast, oops


regulation and criminal liability are two separate things though

what happened to that anyway? I remember seeing it everywhere, and it just... stopped?

They used to give preferential treatment to AMP search results, but November 2020 they announced switching to "Core Web Vitals" signal instead.

https://developers.google.com/search/blog/2020/11/timing-for...


False start.

Why can't agents just click on the link and follow it? I don't get it

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