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Chrome's `find` finds it for me ;)


I have been using it as well, but I think adding a search bar will heighten the experience. I'm trying out some designs right now :)


Yeah Ctrl/Cmd+F works just fine on Firefox as well.


I LOVE this idea and advocate for it in private convos all the time. Banning ads and enabling (micro-)payments for accessing content that is currently ad-supported would be an unimaginable game-changer.


Definitely not. I don't want to pay for every single website I visit for example, it creates a chilling effect overall as to my want of visiting many different sites.


The UX would have to be carefully thought out. But something like setting a "don't bother me" threshold, an overall budget, and an amount that you would like to be asked for explicit permission before accessing would go a long way to making it a smooth experience.

I don't want my browser just paying everything willy nilly but I also don't want to be nagged every time I access a news article as to whether or not I agree to 6 satoshis.

There could be ways of addressing that; browser extensions may make it a configurable option with the default of "ask for everything" being the absolute safest way forward.

Decent use of the http/402 error code, and sort of exactly what the L402 folks are working toward resolving.


1) Not every single site is displaying ads, e.g. Codeberg.org

2) aren't you paying indirectly anyways? (With only a part of the revenue actually landing in the bags of the operator of the site - another part is used to fund Google Chrome and people who design ads)


Sure. But the sites I read and others like news site definitely have ads. Imagine news all being a subscription, fewer people would actually be informed, the opposite of what should be the case. NYTimes can do it because they're big enough but most news sites especially smaller or local ones cannot.


I do not read news sites and I do not consider myself as uninformed.


Your story is therefore irrelevant to this conversation about advertising versus micropayments. Like, good for you that you don't read news but many people do.


What's hacker news?


where are you getting informed about the news?


Mostly family or friends.


Not the best source of news, I'm afraid.

In terms how one can consider oneself about news, I think this is closer to uninformed than the other way. But that's me.


I guess most people think that their source of news is the best one. Because thats why they read them.

Unimportant info is filtered, that realy important that somehow affect me get quite quickly. Most conversation about news are irrelevant thus I have more time to do other things.

News are mostly distraction and emotion flow anyway, I'm not sure why consumption is considering as informing. There are plenty other subjects that I consider much more informative.


For me the majority of private news sites are already subscriptions with a part of it being available without subscriptions.

Then there is publicly accessible news forcibly paid by everyone.

I guess even without ads content without subscriptions would still exist to attract people, however the reality might shift completely if micro payments became a thing (i.e. paying a few cents for every news you view - could be enabled by something like a digital currency like digital euro).

Currently manu are informed by news which attracts many clicks (incentives through ads), which might be considered more disinformation than news.

People might have more money in the bags, because they'd pay less to marketing departments designing and paying for ads.

Lots of things to consider


what if it was paid for as part of your internet subscription and you had more than enough credits for all your current internet usage?

wouldn’t it actually feel good to patronize websites you were interested in with actual direct value instead of everyone relying on spyware and obnoxious spam covering content directed at you?


Ban ads: yes. Or at least tax the motherlovin' heck out of 'em. And regulate the jebeezus too.

(See: <https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49048747>.)

Micropayments: no.

As I've said before: Micropayments have an absolutely unblemished three decade history of perfectly and precisely failing to work.

(Why? See: <https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41261063>.)

Alternative: an all-you-can-eat bundling option with a wide selection of publishers. We're already starting to see this with, e.g., commercial wireless / broadband plans, though largely limited to the major streaming platforms rather than news/journalism sources.

See: <https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36838925>.


Is this some kind of a hoax? Or social experiment? Is the whole thing AI-generated with no human supervision?


This 100% feels like a scam. Can't view a snippet of code on the website. Not even a "Hello World" not even a screenshot. There's no documentation available to look at. The website is entirely focused on getting you to download the Amazon "book". Which, if the "blog" is any indications, is filled with AI generated slop. There's incomplete sentencesin there, nonsense phrasing... I dare any human to read this horrendous post: https://medium.com/techtrends-digest/new-language-pipe-makes... I makes zero sense.

I think the only way to prove that the responses here aren't AI would be for the developers add the sum of the first 30 even integers, then the next 30 odd integers, and the next 30 even integers after that...17 times.


Sorry to hear you are disappointed.

The book itself IS the documentation. In fact, there is a "Hello world!" example of Pipe diagram in the book, which can be downloaded for FREE from Amazon Kindle or Apple iBooks.

Regarding the non-readable language of our article - we will fix the problem by polishing the language. Sorry about that. However, I would like to note the fact that article is hard to read is evidence contrary to AI generation which would definitely generate a pretty polished text.

For your convenience, we just added a link with a PDF of a book preview - please find it at the end of the posting.


Sadly the amazon kindle version is not readable by their kindle web reader - tells me to download android or ios version of kindle :(


Thank you for the question and let me assure you this is not a hoax and not a social experiment. The language is absolutely real: you can download the book for free from Amazon Kindle or Apple iBooks to see that everything stated in the posting is real, not AI-generated.


How is it real if it only exists as a spec in a book? Is there a compiler? Is there an editor?


It is real in terms of the language design. However, this is a pretty complex and sophisticated visual languages so it will take time to implement it.


So, not real then. PS: You can't get a patent unless you can show how to make it real. Not how it "would" work but how it does work.

But TBH, I'm with the rest that say this kind of visual programming is DOA for most applications.


I like the idea, and am excited to see an experimental implementation. You will have to ignore many haters who don't realize that Excel is the most popular programming language in the world. "Stop writing dead programs."


Love this book and love this website. So many favorites, but just gonna mention one (had to "remix" and edit the translations, none of them sounded good): https://fleursdumal.org/poem/109

— О grief! О grief! Time eats life.

And the hidden Enemy who gnaws the heart

grows on the blood we lose and thrives.

— Ô douleur! ô douleur! Le Temps mange la vie,

Et l'obscur Ennemi qui nous ronge le coeur

Du sang que nous perdons croît et se fortifie!


I don't know what you're talking about, they are nice, clean and snappy with JavaScript turned off :)))))


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