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Data centers are massive consumers of water. There are closed loop designs that technically use less water but they: A) Make up less than 10% of data centers; B) Cost much more upfront; C) Require massive investment in waste water treatment. These designs still need to "bleed the lines" once a month and get rid of sludge that is now full of anti-freeze, anti-fungals, and PFAS

It is not at all inaccurate to say data center consumption of water is a huge concern. Too many on HN seem to be puppetting industry lines without realizing it. Closed loop systems are still uncommon and come with their own problems.



We know how much water all data centers put together consume, and it's not even close to what we spend on golf courses.


Yes golf courses use an absurd amount of water. About 2.5b/day. Data centers are about 450m/day so about a fifth of that.

But golf courses are about 2.1 to 2.2 million acres while data centers are between between 340,000 and 840,000.

But I agree with your point. We should be closing both down. They are both water guzzlers and polluting our environment


Wait, are you thinking this through carefully? Because your mitigating issue for golf courses, that they also use way more land, makes them worse, not better.


Agreed, golf courses and data centers need to be regulated and limited. Though data centers seem to use much more water per acre than golf courses. The number I pulled in the original post was global golf course water consumption not just the US. Golf courses also use 7x more pesticides than agricultural land. On the other hand data centers that try to do "closed loop" systems rely on heavy use of anti-freeze, anti-fungals, and anti-corrosives which eventually leads to a toxic sludge that is a massive problem to deal with. Especially since they build up with PFAS as well.

Both are massive environmental problems and the economic externalities have not been accounted for.


Again: using more acreage makes golf courses worse.


I don't understand what you're trying to say and I think you might be very confused. Data centers use more water per acre.

If we had the exact same number of acres of golf courses and data centers, data centers would use more water.


That's the point: we won't have the same number of acres of golf courses and data centers. Golf courses intrinsically use more land.


I'm not sure that follows from the GP's numbers. The average data center size seems to be around 120,000 sqft ~ 3 acre. That means data centers also occupy between 1 and 2.5 million acres of land.


Yep companies are cheap bastards. Sure you can make environmentally sound data centers. Those are not the ones they want to build.

Trump has been neutering the EPA for a reason.

I don't know if HN is really naive or just pretending.




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