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Why is this published again? Is this a reference to recent events?


I just saw some post about it on Threads and found it interesting so decided to share!


My best guess is this is a reference to the recent accusations from Anthropic of chinese labs ¨distilling¨ on their models


And it’s a paper from Alibaba researchers, the company/lab that Anthropic called out by name.


I do not find the Anthropic allegations believable.

All the results presented in these distillation papers are for very small models.

In order to gain anything, Alibaba or others would need today to use the Anthropic models to improve LLMs at least one hundred times bigger than those tested in these papers.

I assume that the number of queries to the teacher LLM grows superlinearly with the size of the student model, which would mean that billions of queries would be needed. Even for a linear growth, at least hundreds of millions of queries would be needed.

I do not see how any Claude account could do so many queries without being detected. Even if the queries would be distributed over thousands of accounts, it would still be easy for Anthropic to stop any such attempts.


Interesting and related , saw on X earlier that CC was now adding some tracking etc, here a post related to how it does it and what its targeting (chinese users) https://thereallo.dev/blog/claude-code-prompt-steganography

one could also see the fable-5 getting pulled off, US govt-ant talks, etc as part of all this globally i think

which is may way to say maybe Anthropic knows this isnt true, but they still will say otherwise publicly to make this admin understand whatever they need regardless on potential security issues etc, idk im extrapolating toomuch probably




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