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100% of people who Google something like "how do we know the covid vaccines are good" would discover that the tool we use to figure that out is called a "clinical trial." Then they can look up "covid vaccine clinical trial results."

The reality is none of these "do your own research" or "just asking questions" people are actually curious whatsoever. Curiosity requires more than zero effort. Simply saying you're "doing your own research" and "just asking questions" while regurgitating the last thing you saw on your TikTok feed is super easy and gives you all the same sense of intellectual superiority.



Im not sure what point you are making. Are you opposed to public health agencies sharing science based facts and helping people find the data?


No? My point is the data is all available and always has been.


Some data is, some isnt. Most people dont look for it and public health communications isnt data focused.

Nobody was was claiming that people cant google.

I dont know why you bring this up as a gotcha when someone said public health communications should share more data.


All of the required data is shared.

Please identify what pieces of data are missing for what specific drugs/trials.


Find me a Public health commercial or flyer that links to the VAERS/AEMS/MDR database?

Can you find one that even links to the trial results?


VAERS is a super early signal self-reported database, why on earth would anyone link to it for public consumption? Should they also link to reddit.com/r/hypochondriac? VAERS should exist and researcher should (and do) pay attention to it, but it's absolutely not anything close to an actual source of actual information.

Trial results, yes, the literal vaccine recommendation bulletins link to their backing data: https://www.cdc.gov/acip/grade/covid-19-pfizer-biontech-vacc...


Is that a mass consumption commercial or flyer?

Im not claiming data is never presented.

Im not claiming data is never available.


It is the top Google result for "pfizer COVID vaccine study CDC"

And yes, ACIP regularly puts out commercials and flyers. They are not 50 minutes nor 230 pages long, but they contain all the relevant info someone needs at a glance, and if they wish to go further then they are directed to ACIP resources like the one I listed.

"The government needs to inject knowledge directly into my brain against my will, without curiosity, and despite my lack of background expertise!"


I dont think you are engaging in good faith.

Information being available online does not help the issue of lack of trust in public health officials, and the sentiment that they are lying or playing hide the ball.

This sentiment is a real issue the nation is facing.

The pandemic had several high-profile examples of Public Health officials knowingly misleading and lying to the public. That's going to take a lot of work to undo


Yes, it's a sentiment generated by this "I need information injected directly into my brain attitude, and failure to achieve that is very possibly maybe kinda hinting at something nefarious!"

> The pandemic had several high-profile examples of Public Health officials knowingly misleading and lying to the public. That's going to take a lot of work to undo

Not really. It had several high-profile examples of public health officials making mostly-reasonably hedged statements under conditions of uncertainty, and then people actually playing game-of-telephone into thinking they said things they didn't say.

Can you provide a few of these "several" examples of public health officials knowingly making false statements?


The rushed clinical trials were only done with 122 people and a control group. During the very short trial, 1 person died in the first group, 2 in the other. The “conclusion” was its better to be vaccinated and it protects you better. 12 months later AstraZenica vaccine pulled from market everywhere ….


Which clinical trial are you referring to for which vaccine?


This is not true lol.


Right, the Pfizer trial went way worse, removing people from the study for catching the disease, etc.


Also not true lol




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